Page
21
PAGE 22 IS NOW OPEN
(OPENED AUGUST 4, 2013)
SIGNED TIFFANY DOES NOT MAKE
IT GENUINE TIFFANY
CLICK ON ANY PHOTO TO ENLARGE
SELLERS NAMES IN
RED ITALICS ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS
SELLER NAMES IN RED
ITALICS ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS
MCLASS111 |
DRF340 |
KILOWATTCAT
|
TPMACREST123 |
POTATOWATER123 |
|
|
NARUKO RETURNS WITH YET ANOTHER
FAKE
Read about this seller on
Pages 17 and 18 before you even think about making a purchase
from him. If still unconvinced
check out his feedback on 4/99, 5/99/ 10/99, 12/99, 5/01,1/02,
2/02, 3/02, 5/02, 2/03, 4/03, 4/04, 3/05, 9/06, 2/07 and all
of those negatives reflect on his selling of fakes, his refusal
to accept returns and the like. Stay away from this seller.
|
NARUKO |
SELL ONE FAKE, SELL ANOTHER FAKE
We received an e mail from someone who happened
to question a non Tiffany item listed on Ebay and was not getting
satisfactory answers from the seller. The buyer decided to look at
our SELLERS TO WATCH section (left margin) and there was the
seller's name. Some sellers make mistakes and some sellers just like
to sell fakes no matter whose fakes they offer. Seller's names in
red italics are repeat offenders
and should be avoided. Notice that seller JACKMSELL
is shown twice on this page with the same fake. It has been listed
again for the third time and that seller continues to refer to it
as Favrille. whatever that is. The piece is signed as Favrille - Tiffany
made Favrile, not Favrille.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PSSTS, WANNA BUY A TIFFANY WINDOW - CHAPTER
2
On Page 17 you were advised about a dealer
offering fake Tiffany windows and operating out of Universe Antiques
in Manhattan and many of these fakes were offered on Ebay with the
assistance of a Ebay seller in New York state named NARUKO - Gary
Braverman. See the very recent article about Braverman above and also
above see where he currently has listed for sale another fake Tiffany
window. According to the Maine Antique Digest - Manhattan dealer Jack
Shaoul sold a window he said was Tiffany for $950,000 to another dealer
who in turn sold it to the principles of the Minnesota Marine Museum
of Art for 1.3 million dollars. The window was able to be traced to
the real maker - Joseph MacKay and the fun started. The museum hired
their experts and the judge accepted their word that the window was
indeed a fake or at least was a fake Tiffany. The MAD article states
that this particular window was in the custody of the FBI from 1992
to 1996 as evidence in another fraud case in which Shaoul served 40
months in a federal prison for a conviction of "mis-attribution
of art" works along with 11 counts of mail fraud, perjury and
attempting to suborn perjury. The judge sanctioned him as "FRAUD".
 |
The window on the right
can be returned at buyers expense if found to be not genuine
and the buyer would then receive a store credit. Bet you would
want one of those after reading this sellers feedback. The window
on the left also offered by NARUKO who says it can be
seen in Lower Manhattan and it is a good bet that it can be
seen at Universe Antiques which by chance happens to be in Lower
Manhattan. By another unbelievable coincidence, Universe Antiques
is owned by the very same Jack Shaoul who was sanctioned by
the judge in the above mentioned case for fraud just a few weeks
ago. Very, very interesting.
|
|
IF IT IS SIGNED TIFFANY, IT MUST BE TIFFANY
BARLEYNECKUSA |
5561111 |
BROWSEHOWZ |
NADINEKRAKOV |
MOTHERGOOSE43 |
THE REAL, THE FAKE, THE FRAUD - JANUARY
18, 2012
Within the last week Ebay seller KUTRINA87
offered a genuine counterbalanced lamp with a genuine Tiffany shade
that sold almost immediately for $5000. The problem was not the lamp
but the ownership. The seller stole the photos and the description
from the web site of HollandArts.Com. Holland is the author of books
on Icart and recently authored the book TIFFANY DESK SETS. The ad
was canceled but Ebay in their infinite wisdom, allowed the seller
to stay. KUTRINA87 repaid that favor by then listing
a fake and fraudulently signed hanging Fruit shade and it sold for
$460. The listing was closed but the seller returned to list the shade
again and it shows sold, this time for $3550. Who are the buyers of
these fakes and what is their motivation? Seller KUTRINA87
has a feedback score of 4 which would make any prudent person want
to check that. Of the 4 positive feedback, strange as it may seem,
all were issued on the very same day, January 18, 2011, all concern
cosmetics and all total less than $300. How was this accomplished?
UPDATE: We have received information that KUTRINA87
downloaded the photos of the hanging lamp from Dr Grotepass Studios
in Germany and by checking that site, the exact photos can be seen
there. We have discovered the answer
to the question above of who is bidding on the fake fruit shade. An
e mail from Ray - Ebay name MYGUY58 - told us that we are wrong about
the shade being a fake because he saw this exact shade in a reference
book. He needs to open a dictionary and look up the word "reproduction".
When he found the real source of the shade, he was upset became he
had plans to make some money reselling the shade. He was the $3550
bidder. It is a mystery how someone could be so stupid but fakes sell
everyday on Ebay.
WHAT WERE THESE IDIOTS THINKING?
From the Department of Justice (DOJ)
for the Middle District of Georgia comes news that charges
have finally been filed against ALLAN BAITCHER, JAMES HOLLOWAY
and JACQUELINE FOWLER regarding the sale of fake and fraudulently
signed Tiffany Studios lamps. The DOJ says the "main charge
is categorized as OTHER CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS", whatever
that means. TiffanyFakes.Com has followed this case for over
4 years and we were pleased to furnish the Atlanta FBI with
the paperwork and the names of most of the people who were scammed.
We began to see and discuss this pattern on Page 2 of our site and
it continued until Page 10 all the while profiling the 20 plus different
names used by the defendants to scam buyers out of money for these
fake lamps. The pattern was to list a fake lamp using a fake name
which Ebay allowed to happen as there were no measures in place to
verify their registration as an Ebay seller. Bids were received and
with the help of shills hidden by another of Ebay's habit of letting
sellers hide the bidder's names behind PRIVATE. You could not tell
the bidders from the shills. BAITCHER are shown as an auctioneer
registered with the Georgia Auctioneers Commission. The embarrassment,
the probability that BAITCHER may lose his auction license, legal
bills and other problems face all of them, the least of which will
be more damage to their reputations. This fate awaits anyone who has
a desire to deal in fake and fraudulently signed pieces of art. Learn
from their example.
WENDYINTHEWIND |
JV.RETROS |
52049THEQUEEN |
SKIYALATER4FUN |
|
MORE ABOUT THE IDIOTS FROM ATLANTA
We have information that the defendants have been charged (not arrested
as stated before) as follows:
BAITCHER - 1 count of Attempt and Conspiracy Fraud
3 counts of Fraud by Wire, Radio or TV
FOWLER - 1 count of Attempt and Conspiracy Fraud
6 counts of Fraud by Wire, Radio or TV
HOLLOWAY - No information available at this time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE CHECK IS IN THE MAIL AND OTHER
STORIES.....
"It is signed Tiffany but it is hard to photograph".
KPSTREET1 |
THE_INTERNET_AUCTIONEER1
|
STAHLGUY |
PINEDRIVE |
ENJOIJAMS |
ADAMMTG |
ADAMMTG |
RON2783 |
RON2783 |
BDK25272 |
|
|
CAN YOU TELL THE
DIFFERENCE?
Appropriate for April Fool's Day comes the story of a lamp.
This is real provenance but very brief. The lamp on the left
was consigned for sale on Live Auctioneers (they do thousands
of auctions a year, selling millions of lots, representing
800 auction houses) by Time and Again Auction Gallery on December
1, 2011 (told you it was brief) and it sold for $25.00. The
lamp on the right has been offered for sale on Ebay with at
least three different prices - $12,500.00, $7,500.00 and currently
is offered for $8,250.00. For anyone vision impaired, it is
the same lamp and the same lamp photo. Who else but NARUKO
would attempt this? You can read about him all throughout
the pages of TIFFANYFAKES.COM especially on this page. Gary
Braverman thinks everybody is stupid. This piece of junk has
been removed. Sold? Not a chance.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL E MAILS ASKING
HOW TO FIND THE LAMP SHOWN ABOVE. Easy, just follow these
steps: Type in LIVEAUCTIONEERS.COM/SEARCH,
then click on SOLD, type in TIFFANY LAMP, hit search, on the
far right click on 1-99 (that's $s) under HAMMER PRICE, next
page click on 10-29 under HAMMER PRICE and this will bring
up 30 Tiffany lamps thst sold for less then $29. The second
page, top left will show the lamp just as we have shown above
left.
This piece has been relisted and this
time it is listed for $4950 - probably means $49.50 - and
the shipping charge is $175.00. New price is now $5800 - probably
means $58.00 which is more than double what he paid. Nice
profit.
|
|
ATTRIBUTED TO ....
What does that mean? It means absolutely nothing unless there is a name
attached to the attribution and that person is recognized as an expert
in that field. My brother-in-law, the mailman or a dealer in New York
recently sanctioned by a New York judge as a being a "FRAUD"
are not candidates for a Tiffany attribution. Use common sense when
buying Tiffany from anyone anywhere.
DEN1256 |
JACKMSELL |
PAMELALEBB |
THESAPPHIREGALLERY
|
JT32958 |
AJSLIM1431 |
BE
CAREFUL
The lamp on the left has graced our pages before and now it
appears to have a new owner, maybe. It is now listed by seller
AJSLIM1431 and the first thing you must do is to check his feedback.
There have been a lot of sellers offering Tiffany for sale that
they neither own nor have in their possession. It appears this
seller might be involved in that. Additionally this seller has
4 photos of the base signature and all of them are blurred and
although the seller says it is signed on the rim, that photo
is not to be found. See Page 20 and notice the same table and
curtains. Be careful.
|
NEWS ABOUT THE IDIOTS IN ATLANTA
Court documents filed in the case of FOWLER, HOLLOWAY and licensed
auctioneer BAITCHER show that the Department of Justice has submitted
to the court as follows: "The
United States has retained Arlie Sulka as it's expert in this case.
Ms. Sulka is the owner of the internationally famous Lillian Nassau
LLC gallery in New York. She is a recognized specialist and dealer
in late 19th and early 20th century decorative arts, particularly
the work of Louis Comfort Tiffany and Tiffany Studios. On March 12,
2012, Ms. Sulka physically examined 15 lamps at the FBI office in
Atlanta. She found that all 15 lamps are obvious fakes. She is preparing
her report while the United States is making arrangements to bring
to Atlanta the rest of the lamps involved in this case." You
can put the fork in these three, they are done. TiffanyFakes.Com reported
on this scam in 2007 and it is a reminder that selling fakes of any
kind is not a profession that is neither long lasting nor profitable.
LKJE |
BESTSELLERS360
|
ANYTHING_POOLS |
KILOWATTCAT
|
E_BAY_BOYS |
THE HEIGHT OF STUPIDITY
Seller KILOWATTCAT, a frequent
seller of fake and fraudulently signed Tiffany has again listed for
sale a tired old fake (see above) that we have shown on Page 20 and
this time the seller has listed it twice at the same time. One listing
has it for sale for $15,000 and a totally separate listing has it
for $19,000. The seller decided to have it evaluated by one of the
more notable Tiffany specialist in the country and that specialist
told him that it was not the works of Tiffany or in
the seller's words the evaluation said "inconsistent in shape,
color and design" of Tiffany designs, "signature is spurious",
"modern reproduction with a value of $150". You bought and
paid for an appraisal, why not use it?
--------------------------------------------------------------
MORE ABOUT THE IDIOTS
FROM ATLANTA
Cut and paste the link below and you will see where they have made
the news again.
http://www.examiner.com/article/three-atlanta-residents-indicted-for-selling-fake-tiffany-lamps
SAC434 |
THINK YOU HAVE SEEN
AND READ EVERYTHING?
From the listing: "It is a beautiful example of Tiffany's
pastel glass line...piece was produced with an imperfection
in the yellow coloring probably caused by the trapped bubble
in the center...piece would never have been passed by Tiffany
and the Tiffany signature would never have been affixed".
Here is the best part- "it was probably ordered
destroyed and the artisian smuggled it home instead... someone
has taken a Dremel tool and signed the piece LCT Favrille with
two L's... There is no doubt that the piece is authentically
Tiffany...but the signature is an idiot's forgery! The signature
is not that deep and could probably be polished off with very
little effort." Those are the words of the seller.
Ebay listing 330722952240
|
|
|
|
DECORARTS7
|
DUTCHPEDDLER
|
PASQUALEPRINCE |
BARLEYNECKUSA |
NARUKO |
RARITIESAGAIN |
JGBEAU |
MONTREAL AUCTION HOUSE |
SCOTTROSE3865 |
THESTELLARCELLAR
|
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
We show and have shown before a lamp which is again offered by seller
BARLEYNECKUSA and this time they have clarified the listing
so all can fully understand what is being sold. First off is the listing
title:
---Vintage signed Tiffany Bronzed Arts & Crafts Lamp Base---
Then we go to the listing and it is described as follows: "This
is a vintage signed Tiffany bronzed arts & crafts lamp base. It
is not an antique authentic Tiffany Lamp Base, but a later copy which
you dont see that often." All those words could be replaced
by just saying IT IS A FAKE.
YOURLIFETIME1
|
EXCELCS38 |
SUNNYJKW |
IBOUGHTIT |
TAPLAC |
ARROGANCE IS BLISS
We received a copy of an e mail sent by BAITCHER (licensed auctioneer
in Georgia) who is
currently charged with the sale of fake and fraudulently signed Tiffany
lamps and is charged by
no less than the Department of Justice in Atlanta - see the stories
above. The e mail was
sent to the person who reported the news of the arrest of this group
in a publication called
EXAMINER.COM. The e mail states that BAITCHER has forwarded the EXAMINER.COM
article to his attorney and BAITCHER informs the writer that it is
going to "cost you at least
$5,000 for just an appearance" in court and that his presence
in court "could be required daily
for several months with your lawyer present". All this for reporting
the news. BAITCHER goes
on to say he "will be suing you personally and look forward to
you spending quite a bit of
time, money and resources". We can understand making a mistake
on a lamp or two,
but over 20 of them and what's with selling them from 20 different
cities and 20 different
seller's names and over $700,000 worth of them. Time will tell and
the pun is
intended. Latest news is the trial has been postponed until August.
SNAPPYAUCTIONS14
|
RUSS9248
|
MUDNSTUFF |
MARKWATCHMAN55 |
ANTIQUEREVIVALONE
|
MELINDASUNSHINE
|
ONEINTHECHAMBER21
|
WOOLISH
|
SYDOWSANTIQUES
|
RONG56345 |
The Jack in the Pulpit vase above on the
left is usual for the site since we normally do not show damaged,
repaired or altered pieces but this is an exception since is it damaged
and a fake.
RONG56345 |
RONG56345 |
RONG56345 |
CASHPAWN1 |
1_ANTIQUES_1 |
ZUUTOO |
MIKORAENTERPRISE |
KGODG0M3O |
GOLFFREAK29 |
24681651
|
KNEEKNEE2010 |
JASPER3024 |
DUENDE1 |
RCSINTERNETCONSIGNMENT
|
STYLE.1900 |
CLK1951 |
PLANETPJL |
WALTERSOLDSTUFF |
ONE_SCORPIO |
STANJENNINGS |
LATEST FROM THE ATLANTA IDIOTS
The DOJ has filed 2 motions recently. One is for an extension due
to the unavailability of their expert due to her commitment to the
Antiques Roadshow which is filming segments for this fall. She is
Arlie Sulka a highly regarded and respected authority on the works
of Tiffany Studios and Louis Comfort Tiffany and is the owner of Lillian
Nassau LLC in New York City. She has made one trip to Atlanta to review
9 lamps that had been received from the buyers and she confirmed that
all were fakes. Now there are more and she will be required to inspect
them. The defendants hired their expert who evaluated 15 lamps but
so far there has been NO drafted report on their authenticity.
One can 0only wonder why? Nine more new lamps have been received from
victims - remember these lamps were sold from Seattle to Paris - and
a search of Fowler's residence by the DOJ/FBI resulted in the seizure
of 3 additional shades and 8 bases and Ms Sulka will return to view
all of these new additions. The motion also allows for the defendants
to have the lamps inspected by their expert and the DOJ/FBI state
in their motion that "Gaining access to the lamps is as simple
as coming to the Russell Building". Sounds pretty easy to us.
The second motion was to allow the defendant's expert to bring a camera,
black light, etc to view the lamps and it appears that this was quickly
agreed to by the DOJ/FBI. We will keep you posted.
|
|
WHO SIGNED THIS VASE?
The photo to the left was taken from a
vase offered for sale on Ebay and if you would spend a few minutes
studying the signature (click on it to enlarge the photo), you
would recognize it as a genuine Tiffany signature. Carefully
notice how smoothly the signature flows and is totally lacking
in the jerkiness associated with fake signatures. Also notice
that the distance from the edge is equal as it follows the contour
of the base. As expected, there is no misspelling of Favrile
as shown in the vase offered on this page by seller JACKMSELL
who continues to offer his fake for over $1400. Use this signature
as a guide and it might save you a lot of money.
|
KOVELS COMMENTS FROM AUGUST 15, 2012
"Antiques Insight: Three indicted for Selling Fake Tiffany Lamps"
JOHMAGNUS |
PLAZA57 |
HSAYED9772 |
MOD50S |
POUSPOUS |
NAMES IN RED ITALICS
ARE REPEAT SELLERS OF FAKES
FROM PLAZA 57 IN NEW YORK - FUNNY BUT SAD
Lee Rosenbloom writes that they have corrected their listing for a
Tiffany lamp that they originally offered as the real deal - original
and handmade in the early 1900s. For the provenance comes a story
that Plaza 57 got it from "someone whose grandparents paid over
$30,000 over 40 years ago" and that it "comes with a free
certified insurance appraisal valued at $60,000" but being the
good people they are, it is now offered for sale for $29,000. It is
described as "reminiscent of the early Tiffany 20th century lamps
with an engraved dragon base…that Tiffany used to make".
You remember those other dragon lamps Tiffany use to make? Such a
deal and do not forget the "free certified appraisal". What
is it about Tiffany that causes so many to abandon their moral compass?
Maybe it is not the Tiffany.
LAMP HAS BEEN REMOVED
CLICK ON ANY PHOTO TO ENLARGE
ATLANTAECOMM |
GYPSY5961 |
GARRY678 |
DBURKS |
ERICA_DEVIN |
ANOTHER PROBLEM SELLER FROM ATLANTA
- THE JIMMY AND JILL STORY
The three pieces of fake Tiffany shown above
are offered by JIMMYMCD3 and that seller says he is
from Atlanta and his business is Buckhead Trading Company.
In an e mail he says he is an attorney in Texas and will file a suit
if the items are not taken down from this site. He closes out the
e mail with "f*ck with the bull. You get the horn". Such
an attitude makes one wonder what is going on with this guy. A check
of his Ebay activity shows that he last used his account in January
2001 until he began to sell all of these Tiffany and Tiffany "era"
lamps in July 2012. Must have been napping for 11 years. Another player
in this mess is bidder JILLSGARDENGARDEN - positive feedback
9 (now 10 thanks to feedback from Jimmy) - who last used her (?) account
in November 2005 and she woke up this month (September 2012) and came
out bidding. Somehow these two found each other. She has bid on 21
of his listings, has placed a total of 151 bids and she won 4 of them
for which she has already received positive feedback. None of the
items sold by this seller for which he has NOT received feedback
are counted - only those with feedback. One auction she won ended
on the 6th, two ended on the 7th and the last ended on the 11th of
September with feedback left on the 11th. Must live next door to get
that kind of delivery. Another interesting pair of auctions concern
the sale of a genuine Zodiac frame. The first time it sold for $1,001,
had 36 bids of which she bid 21 times and she came in second at $1,000
and the winning bidder made 9 bids and won the auction at $1001. All
of the bids above $410 (25 different bids) were made by these two
bidders. For some reason, for which we can only guess, the sale did
not go through because the frame was relisted and this time she only
bid 2 times stopping at $500. The bidding stopped at $501 and the
bidder who competed with her before decided enough was enough and
never made a bid. Anybody understand what is going on here?
UPDATE - On September 13, Jimmy had 12 listings close and Jill placed
117 bids and none of the figures above are included in these new numbers.
Totaling them together, she has now placed 268 bids just on his listings
in September and the month is not half over. Busy girl.
KGODG0M3O |
ON THE LEFT
The vase shown on the left was just listed and the photo is
so bad - hint number 1 - that we had to adjust it just to see
what is being offered. No other photo was offered although the
seller did respond to a request for additional photos and in
that photo - hint number 2 - not much can be seen again. A check
of his other listings shows that he has a Lalique vase offered
for $700 and a Galle piece offered for $150. We checked with
our friends at RLalique.Com and they advised that the Lalique
is fake.
(Cut and paste the link below to visit their site: http://rlalique.com/r_lalique_suspicious_online_auction_listings.html)
Experience tells us that that someone
who sells one fake will also sell other fakes.
|
SALESFACILITATOR |
HERMESCOINS1 |
H33VMR |
H33VMR |
HTANTIQUES |
THERE CAN BE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN
SIGNED TIFFANY AND GENUINE TIFFANY|
MUDNSTUFF |
CROSSOAKS |
JYWARNER1962 |
SNEAKERS_12 |
NEWRACKET200 |
DBURKS
|
PRICE IS IMPORTANT
The lamp shown on the left and also shown above several lines
was originally listed as a Tiffany shade and a Tiffany base
and sold for over $1500 which should have been the first clue.
We believe the seller notified the buyer that it was on this
site and the sale was canceled. It was then relisted using the
exact same description as before but at the very end, it mentioned
that it was not genuine Tiffany and this time it sold for only
$500.
|
|
OH, BY THE WAY....
The shade on the right is listed as a Tiffany shade and in the
listing the seller offers a small bit of history about Tiffany
and a lot of wordage about how careful one must be about buying
Tiffany from someone who does not have experience is selling
high end items. What the seller fails to tell you in the listing
is that the shade had been broken into a bunch of pieces and
someone has used pounds of lead to put it back together. Seller
says it was taken to someone who thinks it is Tiffany and the
seller might be able to put that into words and on paper. Doubt
it very much.
|
MINDYJOYN |
MRFALS |
MRFALS |
GERMANCHABLE |
DVB0631
|
JIMMYMCD3 |
PROVENANCE OF THE DAY, MONTH, YEAR
"I do not know why Someone put Me & My listing on that site.
I stated clearly in My listing that I was selling the Shade for a friend
who was "Told" that the Shade was a Tiffany. I further more
stated that My Partner found a Sconce with Shade in a book that looked
just alike the one I have listed. I never said that it was positively
Tiffany or did I guarantee that it was. When something is not signed,
What are You to do? You state what You know, What You are told and be
honest about it. And that is what I do.
Thank You for pointing this out. Good day." GERMANCHABLE.
GRETTASTREASURES |
JIMMYMCD3 |
IBIDBUYSHIPPROPERPURCHASES |
|
|
KOOLPIX17 |
HANMADANG |
4ARTZSAKE69-US |
SEAHAWKCO |
LAMPSOURCE |
JIMMY AND JILL - CHAPTER II
When we last (see above) left this "couple" from Atlanta,
Jimmy was selling and Jill was shilling. As all shillers know, you
are eventually going to get "caught" with the high bid when
the clock stops. Jill certainly found this out when she got "caught"
with 9 of Jimmy's listings which is not a bad average since she bid
over 250 times on his items. What to do now? No problem for
Jimmy, he just re-lists them again and to save time and effort, he
uses the exact and identical listing that he used when Jill bought
them the first time. Exact same photos also. This of course is after
Jill left positive feedback for Jimmy and Jimmy left positive feedback
for Jill - multiple times. One piece we followed was a Tiffany Zodiac
calendar frame - Jimmy incorrectly calls it a photo frame - and Jill
bid on it 21 times and it sold for $1001, then it was immediately
re-listed and it sold for $500 but Jill only bid 2 times this time.
Finally it sold for $400 and she only bid once which proves that the
third time is a charm. Were this the only item she bought, received
feedback for and was re-listed by the original seller using the identical
listing and identical photos, it would be no big deal. The big deal
is that so far we can see at least 6 times that this has happened.
We have received several e mails telling us that concerned Ebayers
have reported these sham transactions to Ebay and nobody there seems
to care and Ebay makes it almost impossible to report this type of
fraud. This is not rocket science to see this happening, Ray Charles
could see this. Ebay has not much interest in stopping Jimmy and Jill
as they both ring the cash register but the effects of this tolerance
by Ebay will show eventually. Their reputation for stopping fraud
of any kind should be one of their main concerns. A current check
of Jimmy's listings shows that he currently has 36 items listed (some
of which were purchased by Jill before), and Jill is back in the buying
mode with 21 bids placed on 12 different items. Wake up Ebay, smell
this crap and put an immediate halt to it.
FORMULA1MONACO
|
WWOLST12 |
216WAY |
HTANTIQUES |
MRFALS |
QUALITYAUCTIONSERVICE |
WHITEWOLF |
|
GRANDOM13MAH |
|
ED-BASS |
JONESLASCRUCES |
DANADANANG68NG68
|
CENTURYSEEKERS2 |
FORMULA1MONACO
|
JACKMSELL
|
THE "FAVRILLE"
FRAUDSTER
We have shown this fake several times on this page alone as
it just keeps coming up for sale time and time again. We know
Tiffany did not sign it much less sign it as Favrille.
Jack M Sell does not know either and you can see where he attempts
to minimize the effect of this mis-spelling by placing Favrille
in quotes. Jack says it is etched but we see that the signature
is badly and poorly scratched and he also says he is not an
expert in Tiffany and suggest you buy it for what it is. For
provenance he offers that it was in his mother's kitchen for
50 - 60 years. Read the listing very carefully. Jack, it is
a fake and fraudulently signed piece of glass and it is neither
Favrille (whatever that is) or Favrile.
|
JOROMERO1 |
EXTREME CAUTION IS
ADVISED
The vase on the left and the lamp on the right just appeared
on Ebay and both of the pieces have some troublesome similarities
Both seller are 0 rated and strange as it may seem, both are
totally lacking in photos of the bases, pontil, signatures or
numbers. Maybe possession of these
two items is not in the hands of the sellers which would account
for the lack of convincing photos. The most troublesome problem
of all is that neither is guaranteed to be genuine Tiffany although
that would not be worth much from a 0 rated seller. Attempts
to obtain photos that might help in identifying these two pieces
were a waste of time. The vase seller has not replied to several
e mails or even acknowledged the e mails. The seller of the
lamp offered to send photos if you sent your e mail; address
and although that was done by several different people, there
was no reply. Be very very careful.
|
PHILLTAYLOR1 |
MORE ON THE LAMP ABOVE
The lamp has been withdrawn from Ebay and the seller says "it is
no longer available". which probably means that he has sold it
off Ebay. If that is the case - and that is probably what the seller
wanted - Ebay will now no longer be responsible if it turns out that
it is not what it is represented as in the listing. Shame on some buyer.
Several people have reported that they did not
receive the additional photos they requested and were promised.
We were e mailed some high quality photos which
require us to call the lamp genuine - both shade and base. All of this
confusion regarding the lamp could have been avoided when first listed
if the photos have been attached to the listing. Concerns about who
actually owns the lamp will remain so all interested should protect
themselves by using a third party such as PayPal to hold the payment
until it is received and seen.
THE FINAL CHAPTER
We have received several copies of e mails from the US and even from
abroad regarding not only the lamp above but the vase shown above from
a totally different seller. The e mails are from the individual seller
of the lamp and the seller of the vase and although one is from Florida
and the other is from Georgia, the e mails say the exact same message.
"I had to go to Spain on business and had to take the listing"
- vase and lamp - "off Ebay but it" (they) "is"
(are) "still for sale". If you do not understand that message,
it is asking you to buy "off" Ebay where you will have absolutely
no protection whatsoever. If you do not get either item, if it is not
the item shown in the Ebay photo or any other excuse, you will be without
any recourse. Remember that PayPal cost you absolutely nothing but can
save you everything you pay. Buying something "off Ebay" is
an old scam and the results are always the same - you lose. Use common
sense at all times.
PHOENIXMAN13 |
WILNEAL |
FLORIDA173SUNNY
|
THESAPPHIREGALLERY
|
DEENAQ |
CTSTREASUREHAVEN |
ANTIQUE4XPU |
PGMICT |
1MYWAY2
|
WITT2278 |
HANMADANG |
8888WOODS |
RAHRAH_2 |
BLAZINGMASTIFFS |
CHANELSTOREINIKKI |
AKROB1985 |
ON THE LEFT
Seller AKROB1985 offers this piece of junk as "authentic
Tiffany Studios" with "masterful workmanship",
"joints done to perfection" with a "color scheme
masterfully done". This wonderful offering is from a seller
with less than 4 months experience selling on Ebay and currently
has a 13 rating, a 88.2 percernt record and was able to receive
2 negatives already. Stay away.
|
ADDG786 |
LILSHORTYTJ |
MONTANAROSIE1990 |
RASCALS-DESIGN-JEWELRY
|
MSKRIS620 |
WORKINDOGG |
|
BURCHARDGALLERIES
|
RERREF |
MCNEALS |
BESTOFALLPRICES |
WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL
OF THE FAKES SHOWN ON THIS SITE
Most times they just fade away and are never seen again. Sometimes
the worst happens and they reappear listed on Ebay again. Such
is the latest for the fake and fraudulently signed vase on the
left. You can see it about 3 rows above. It was first listed
by LILSHORTYTJ from Hughesville, Maryland. Not satisfied to
just accept that she made a bad purchase, she decided to travel
down the road for 11 miles and sell it to a dealer in White
Plains, Maryland. When we first placed it on the site we were
promised to see an "authentication" but it never aterialized.
Now according to the new buyer, she will be making another trip
to White Plains to buy it back and you can be assured that we
will watch for it to reappear.
|
|
HOOKEDONART
|
MORE OF WHAT HAPPENS
TO ALL OF THE FAKES
Shown on the left is a fake that has been around for a while
and we showed it on this site on Page 17, Page 19 and then on
this page. This particular piece was offered by a Florida auction
house with part of the listing stating that "it may or
may not be Tiffany" and was shown on Live Auctioneers as
sold on January 27 for $700 plus premiums. The very next day
it was offered for sale on Ebay by a dealer with a price of
$1999 and there was no mention of the "it may or may not
be Tiffany" statement. The current seller offered some
information as to why it does not have the typical Tiffany finish
and why it does not have the Tiffany look but those statements
have been revised out of the original listing. It is a fake
and fraudulently signed piece and no matter what the price may
be, it will always be a fake and poorly made fake at that. We
did not happen to see any guarantee from the seller but the
seller does point out that the signature is comparable to a
verified Tiffany signature and that is what the makers of these
fakes do best. Be very careful.
|
PSST, WANNA BUY A TIFFANY WINDOW - CHAPTER
3
We were advised that the link supplied above
in Chapter 2 was not working. This is in regards to the sale of a
fake Tiffany window by Manhattan dealer Jack Shaoul who, as a result
of a trial in Manhattan, was declared a "FRAUD" by the judge.
The new and corrected link is as follows:
http://www.maineantiquedigest.com/stories/judge-decides-conflict-between-two-dealers-sanctions-one-for-quotfraudquot/2920
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RBFINEARTANDANTIQUES
|
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE???
On the left is a new listing on
Ebay for a 27.5 inch diameter hanging lamp shade which, according
to the seller "may or may "not" be Tiffany".
Offered for sale in Orlando which by chance happens to be the
home of the Charles Hosmer Morse Museum of Americian Art which
has one of the finest and largest collection of Tiffany in the
world. Seller - RBFINEARTANDANTIQUES - does not seem to want
to have the shade authenticated by anyone, not even someone
within 20 miles of him so it is up to the buyer to know what
is for sale. Why would anyone offer a genuine Tiffany shade
worth $100,000 for $7,000? The value of a good reproduction
is approximately $7,000 but with this amount of damage the value
would be $4,500 and then the addition of a fake and fraudulent
Tiffany signature, the value would drop another $2,500. What
is this shade and what is it's real value?
|
CLEVELAND7250 |
BETTYANNSANTIQUES |
SHELLJER94 |
SHOOFLY-HIKER |
VISAKAY |
|
|
PRESENTING: DUMB
AND DUMBER
We have warned several times about Tiffany items with paste-on
labels and we have warned several times about the mis-spelling
of signatures on fake pieces of Tiffany. A perfect example shown
several times on this page is a fake and fraudulently signed
vase offered by seller JACKMSELL
who states in the listing that it is a "Favrille"
vase. It has been listed for a year for as much as $1800 but
no buyers. Now we have a new twist to selling fake Tiffany -
a mis-spelled label. It also spells Favrile as Favrille and
it is shown on the left and also above on a vase listed by SHOOFLY-HIKER.
|
SKYDANCERSTAR |
NICOLE032180 |
ANDREW5229 |
POORBOY56 |
IVY2 |
HOOKEDONART
|
RELISTED
AGAIN
This time the seller advises that the number stamped on this
piece is shown in the category of "FANCY GOODS" in
Duncan's book - TIFFANY AT AUCTION and opposite that number
it is blank. Duh, this is how people who make these fakes come
up with a number. They look through a book for a number that
has no item assigned to it and they use the number as their
own making sure they match the signature as close as possible
as to size and font. Since the time this was first listed, and
did not sell, you would think the seller would have secured
another opinion as to whether it is or it is not genuine. We
would be happy to suggest several know Tiffany experts to answer
any concerns the seller may have about this piece and the seller
can easily afford the cost since he only paid $700 for an item
he is selling for $2000. Then the seller could add to the listing
that he had it verified and a guarantee is included with the
purchase. There must be a reason. Free shipping helps. Read
about it above when HOOKEDONART first listed it.
|
JIMMY, JILL AND NOW, NICOLE AND CAMILLA
A new addition to the "Jimmy and Jill Story" see above.
Things settled down for a while with Jimmy selling and Jill shilling
- running up the bids for him - and the two quietly faded away after
Jimmy ended up with about 20 negative feedbacks in a 30 day period.
Tough to be a seller with a lot of negatives. Now the scam is alive
again with the addition of Nicole - Ebay name NICOLE032180
- who just happens to be from Atlanta also. Must be neighbors. Nicole
is now listing and Jimmy and Jill are bidding and shilling. The funny
part is Nicole is selling pieces that Jimmy sold and were purchased
- got caught with the high bid when the time ran out - by Jill and
then were offered for sale by Jill and this time Jimmy would bid.
They were having a great time leaving feedback for each other and
now they have included Nicole in their game.
Another new member of the group is CAMELLIACLEAR, who strangly
enough is also from Atlanta and she (?) buys from Jimmy, sells to
Nicole who sells to Jill who sells to Camilla and the next thing you
know is the very same item that Jimmy sold to Jill is again for sale
and being bid on by one of them. Too confusing to keep track of who
is buying and who is selling but you can believe one thing, somebody
is getting hurt because whoever is selling, the rest are bidding on
the item. It is called shilling. Look out everybody, here they come.
UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE
In addition to the above, NICOLE032180 has received 13 feedbacks since
she started selling on March 5th, that's this year. There are 4 negatives
from one seller - must be hardheaded - and 7 of the feedback are from
the partners mentioned above. This means that the buyers got caught
when the clock ran out but no problem. they will be relisted again.
Hard to believe Ebay allows this to happen. Anything for a few dollars
no matter the hurt. A check of Camillia's
selling experience shows that she has sold a total of 8 items, 4 of
which were where Jimmy is the high bidder - he gets caught a lot -
and of the remaining 4, either Jimmy, Jill or Nicole bid a total of
45 times.
PAULETTECARMICHAELHOUSE
|
YES INDEED
The seller on the left sent an e mail as follows - "I have
dealt some of the worlds best Tiffany , Handel, and Pairpoint
lamps for over 30 years". This lamp has a piece of each
and is for sale for $8000. Ugh and ugly.
|
TINAGAR50 |
DANNYESTORE
|
|
THE ATLANTA THREE
On March 6, 2013, Jacqueline FOWLER entered court in Atlanta
and changed her plea from not guilty to GUILTY to one count of the indictment.
She will receive a maximum fine of $250,000 "due and payable immediately"
and "full restitution due and payable immediately to all victims"
and will be required to answer all questions put to her by the court.
This should put the other two idiots - BAITCHER and HOLLOWAY
- on notice that they will be having a few bad days in the near future.
Stealing is neither fun nor profitable. Pay attention all who think
it is harmless to sell fakes be they Tiffany or anyone else.
AMBIANCEARTS11
|
THE RETURN OF THE "GOOSE GIRL
PLATE"
We have reported on this piece of junk
many times in the past years and it just seems to keep coming
back and offered for sale. Most of the time the pricing was
around $100 to $200 but this time, AMIANCEARTS11
from California has just relisted it for another 30 day period
for the unbelievable price of $4,800.00. On the right is the
identical plate offered by AA Importing in St Louis and their
price is $20.00 each or, for $30.00 you can have two. The
seller says it is "fully signed and hallmarked on the
back". For those who do not speak Taiwanese, incolay
means plastic. Makes you wonder what else these clowns sell.
Click on the photo on the right to read the small print.
Just think, you could buy 320 plates
from AA for what you would pay for 1 from AMBIANCEARTS11.
Unbelievable gall.
A READER ASKED WHAT THEY WERE SMOKING
IN BEVERLY HILLS THAT WOULD MAKE THEM OFFER TO SELL A $20
FAKE PIECE OF TIFFANY FOR $4800. BEATS US.
|
|
|
|
NIMBLE_THIMBLE0 |
DR_GASMAN |
SPORTSANY1 |
BRIDGESTREETCOLLECTIBLES
|
NAMES IN RED ITALICS
ARE REPEAT SELLERS OF FAKE TIFFANY
THERMIE-BANANA |
ALFALFACH |
BBILOVU2 |
TEL-AVIVA |
LIONSGATEANTIQUESETC |
FOWLER TO BE SENTENCED
"The sentencing hearing for defendant(s), JACQUELINE FOWLER,
has been set for May 13, 2013,
11:00 AM at Richard B. Russell Federal Building and Courthouse, Courtroom
1907,
75 Spring St. SW, Atlanta, GA 30303 before Judge Steve Jones."
See above for other details.
MORE GOOD NEWS
The day after FOWLER is to be sentenced - May 14, 2013 - for her part
in the sale of $700,000
in fake and fraudulently signed Tiffany lamps, the other defendants,
ALLAN BAITCHER
and JAMES HOLLOWAY will be tried in Atlanta federal court.
The Flip Wilson Excuse
is expected to be their defense - "the devil made me do it".
GOLDCROWNANTIQUES |
SBN_IRISH_FAN |
LGGF11 |
CIRCA12 |
ROLYR1340 |
PAWNSHOPLI |
IDK14904 |
LIONSGATEANTIQUESETC
|
WORKINDOGG |
JACKIN77 |
HEADS UP
NOTICE THAT THE FAKE TIFFANY BOX OFFERED ABOVE BY JACKIN77 ON THE
RIGHT IS IDENTICAL TO THE FAKE TIFFANY BOX OFFERED BY COLLECTIBLE-EXPRESS
A FEW ROWS ABOVE. BOTH SELLERS ARE FROM NEW YORK STATE. BE CAREFUL
WLWATE |
5251ELEANOR |
2012MONIA76 |
SAMJOELIN |
WOWANTIQUES |
TRIAL RESCHEDULED YET AGAIN
The trial for the two remaining defendants, JAMES HOLLOWAY and Atlanta
auctioneer
ALLAN BAITCHER, has again been rescheduled until July 9, 2013. The third
party involved
in this $700,000 fraud pled GUILTY as seen in the article above.
ESTATE_HEIR |
RW8083 |
AMERICANGOLDRUSH |
RANDY30 |
TALIPES |
LITTLEMARZ |
LITTLEMARZ |
LITTLEMARZ |
LITTLEMARZ |
LITTLEMARZ |
LITTLEMARZ |
LITTLEMARZ |
LITTLEMARZ
HAS DECIDED TO MAKE A CAREER OUT OF SELLING FAKE TIFFANY -
SEE ABOVE
DJSLEWIS1 |
ANTIQUES26-HOTMAIL.COM
|
ANTICURIO |
BRIJFACE |
JSBURAS |
MORE ABOUT THE ATLANTA THREE
Since 2007, we have kept you informed about the sales of fake and
fraudulently signed Tiffany lamps and the charges leveled by the Department
Of Justice (DOJ) against Georgia auctioneer Allan B. BAITCHER and
others, his recent federal indictment for "Attempt and Conspiracy
to Commit Mail Fraud and 3 counts of Fraud by Wire, Radio or T.V.,"
as well as his upcoming trial, currently set for July 3, 2013 (seems
to change daily). Well, Tiffany Fakes recently received a letter from
one of Mr. BAITCHER's attorney for making -- let me get this
right -- "false and defamatory statements" against Mr. BAITCHER.
In all, the attorney accused the site of making seven (7) allegations
of these so-called false and defamatory statements, and we will respond
and make the necessary corrections. Page 22, although not yet opened
for other purposes yet, will address these points. Just click on Page
22 below and you will see our reply.
|
SELLERS TO WATCH
IF YOU ARE WONDERING ABOUT A SELLER, MAKE USE OF OUR SELLERS
TO WATCH
PAGES AND SEE IF THAT SELLER IS LISTED THERE. SEE THE MARGIN
ON THE LEFT.
|
5239(16)1
|
PENCILPOINTER |
RICHESOFAGES |
5239(16)1
|
SINSTER32 |
REPLY
TO BAITCHER'S ATTORNEY
Allegation #1: On our site, we stated that: "We have information
that the defendants (i.e., BAITCHER, and his cohorts) have been arrested
and charged...." The attorney does not deny BAITCHER was charged,
merely that he was not arrested.
Our Response: The information we were provided indicated that BAITCHER
was arrested and charged; if he was charged without having been arrested,
then we offer our apology to BAITCHER. We have corrected this mistake
on the previous page. Maybe if you surrender, which he did, then posted
a $15,000 bond, which he did, then it was not necessary for him to
be arrested.
Allegation #2: On our site, we stated that: "We have also been
informed that BAITCHER is a licensed auctioneer in Alabama, in addition
to Georgia." The attorney claims this statement is false because
BAITCHER has not held an Alabama license in over ten years.
Our Response: On page 21, of the 367 page demo appraisal document
prepared by BAITCHER, dated January 28, 2007, on a page entitled "Your
Appraiser," BAITCHER makes the following statements about himself:
"Mr. BAITCHER is a Candidate Member of the American Society of
Appraisers, a previous 'What's It Worth? syndicated columnist for
a number of antiques publications including Antique Monthly, and a
'legal expert' (as documented by the court) in the antiques field
in the states of Georgia, Alabama, Missouri, Florida, and many others.
Mr. BAITCHER is also a licensed and bonded auctioneer in many states
around the U.S. and frequently travels to conduct high-end auctions
of antiquities, giving him great familiarity with actual marked values
and trends." This is a tough call, on the one hand, he wants
to say we defamed him by stating he was licensed in Alabama. So, here's
what we're going to do: We hereby apologize to the lawfully licensed
auctioneers in the state of Alabama, for incorrectly stating that
BAITCHER is licensed there. To BAITCHER we say: this is not defamatory,
get over it but, we have removed that statement from Page 21.
Allegation #3: On our site, we stated that: "Court documents
filed in the [BAITCHER] case show that [the government's expert witness]
Ms. Sulka examined 15 lamps at the FBI office in Atlanta. She found
that all 15 lamps are obvious fakes." The attorney claims this
statement is false because a formal report was never submitted to
the court demonstrating these allegations.
Our Response: Nice try; won't work. We never said that "a formal
report" was submitted to the court. We said documents in the
court file contain Ms. Sulka's (Lillian Nassau Inc, New York City
and frequent contributor to Antiques Roadshow) opinion of the 15 lamps
as fake.
Allegation #4: On our site we stated that: "We can understand
making a mistake on a lamp or two, but over 20 of them, and what's
with selling them from 20 different cities and 20 different seller's
name and over $700,000 worth of them?" The attorney claims that
we must be lying because there were never any allegations or evidence
of 20 cities or 20 different seller names.
Our response: O.K., we may be off -- slightly -- in this instance.
There's only 19 fake lamps, not 20. The fake and fraudulent selling
names and addresses used by the Atlanta Three to sell these fake and
fraudulent lamps were turned over to the FBI by this site and we were
pleased to do that. Mea culpa,
mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Please forgive us.
Allegation #5: On our site we refer to BAITCHER, specifically, and
his cohorts, as "idiots. The attorney claims this is "false
and defamatory."
Our response: According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the word
"idiot" refers to a person who is foolish. Let us say this:
If your professional, business, and personal dishonesty and conduct
result in your being indicted by the United States Government for
Attempt and Conspiracy to Commit Fraud and 3 counts of Fraud, then
you are, indeed foolish, and an idiot.
Allegation #6: On our site we stated that: "Nine more new lamps
have been received from victims - remember these lamps were sold from
Seattle to Paris - and a search of FOWLER's residence by the DOJ/FBI
resulted in the seizure of 3 additional shades and 8 bases."
The attorney claims this is somehow false, and therefore, defamatory
of BAITCHER, because there are conflicting numbers contained in court
documents.
Our response: It takes time to gather up the lamps so they can be
evaluated by the DOJ experts and co-defendant FOWLER who has already
pled guilty, was "caring" for the other 3 additional shades
and 8 bases. From Seattle to Paris to Atlanta, these lamps did not
just show up in one day. Sorry, BAITCHER, it's not always about you;
sometimes it's about one or more of your co-defendants. If and when
we hear from any of them, we will see.
Allegation #7: On our website we stated that: "This should put
the other two idiots - BAITCHER and HOLLOWAY - on notice that they
will be having few bad days in the near future. Stealing is neither
fun nor profitable." Again, the attorney complains that we called
BAITCHER an idiot. But this one also adds the complaint that BAITCHER
has never been charged with "theft."
Our response: We stick by our previous "idiot" response,
and we'll add that, to the naked eye, fraud and theft are two sides
of one coin. If you attempt to illegally deprive someone of their
property (e.g., $$$$), that's theft. If you use deceptive means to
do this, that's fraud. So, whatever point the attorney is trying to
make seems to have become lost amongst the various crimes with which
his client has been charged (although, not arrested).
WE WILL CORRECT WHAT
NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED AND
WE WILL STAND BY THE REST.
PAGE 22 IS OPEN
AT THIS TIME
For more fakes click here for Page
22
