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WHAT IS INVOLVED IN INSURING THAT
YOU HAVE
PURCHASED A GENUINE TIFFANY LAMP?
FIRST OFF, THE LAMP MUST BE
$HIPPED TO YOU. YOU THEN HAVE TO $HIP IT
OFF TO SOMEONE WITH TIFFANY EXPERIENCE UNLESS YOU LIVE IN
A MAJOR
METROPOLITAN AREA. AFTER PAYING FOR THE EVALUATION, THE $HIPPING
BOTH WAYS,
YOU NOW KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE PURCHASED. IF CORRECT AND GENUINE,
YOU CAN
NOW ENJOY YOUR PURCHASE. IF NOT, PROBLEMS ARE AHEAD. FIRST
OFF, YOU HAVE TO
PAY $HIPPING CHARGES BACK TO THE SELLER, THEN THE SELLER HAS
TO ACCEPT YOUR EVALUATION AND THEN THE SELLER HAS TO RETURN
YOUR MONEY AND IT IS HIGHLY DOUBTFUL THAT THE SELLER WILL
PAY YOU FOR ALL THE TIME AND EXPEN$ES YOU
HAVE OCCURRED IN EVALUATION, $HIPPING AND IN$URANCE. THE BEST
THING TO
DO IS TO BUY A LAMP FROM AN EXPERIENCED TIFFANY DEALER OR
COLLECTOR OR
THE SELLER MUST SUPPLY YOU WITH AN APPRAISAL FROM SOMEONE
KNOWN AS
HAVING TIFFANY EXPERIENCE. ALSO, YOU CAN BUY FROM SOME OF
THE MANY
MAJOR AUCTION HOUSES WHERE YOU WILL NOT ENCOUNTER ANY OF THESE
PROBLEMS. THE CHOICE, LIKE THE MONEY, IS YOURS.
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MCLASS111 |
ARTNOUVEAUNOW |
OSTEEN |
PRACCUS5150 |
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SYLVIASTRESURES |
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EVERYTHINGS |
EVERYTHINGS |
TRAVERSEARTGLASS |
HINTS
FROM HELPERS
We have received several comments from readers - we are always pleased
to hear both the good and
the bad - complaining about listings on Ebay that show a beautiful
photo of an item identified as Tiffany
and signed as Tiffany, but there is no photo shown of the signature
and if there is a photo of the signatutre,
it is blurry and out of focus. Look out. While a Tiffany signature
should never be the final decision
regarding whether to buy or not, it can be a very useful tool to
determine if you want to even look any
further. It is a good bet to not bid on a beautiful piece of glass
signed as "Tifeny".
DOUBLE STRUCK
The pair of candlesticks shown immediately above and on the right
are generating a lot of messages
to the site. The area of contention is the signature the seller
proudly claims to be a genuine Tiffany
signature. That signature will fool only the most novice Tiffany
buyer and there are several who have
already placed bids on them. The signature is poorly struck and
the wrong font size. For those that
do not know, most Tiffany metalware is stamped as TIFFANY STUDIOS
and immediately underneath
and centered is NEW YORK. Somewhere else is usually a number which
will correspond to any of the
reference books and if you see a number and check it with one of
the reference books, the items should
look alike. The signature marking a Tiffany Studios piece is an
art just as the pieces to be marked are
art. Marking is also difficult and fakes can usually be identified
as "double struck" which overlaps,
"double struck" which is two signatures on one piece which
is caused when the first signature is not
stamped properly causing it to be stamped again and both lines of
the signature are stamped differently.
These candlestick have all of these problems. We are awaiting a
promised report (to be placed on
the listing) from a "Manhattan Tiffany authority" and
we hope to see that report soon.
The 4 random signature samples shown at the top were selected from
assorted listings to demonstrate
what a genuine Tiffany Studios signature looks like. Notice that although
they were taken from 4
completely different Tiffany items, they all look alike. The three
on the bottom (2 signatures on 1
candlestick) are from the candlesticks shown above right from a listing
by TURFRIDERLLC and it is
clear to see that they match nothing from Tiffany Studios. These photos
also show the fake applied patina which is also completely different
from anything Tiffany did. Of course they did not get a single offer.
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JACK
IN THE PULPIT VASE
A recent sale of a 17 inch Jack in the Pulpit vase realized a price
of $17, 250 at a Northeast auction
house. This easily beats the prices realized on Ebay which usually
run in the low hundreds to mid one thousand. Wonder what that means.
Have not seen many on Ebay lately but they usually run in cycles.
Hopefully we will not see them soon.
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"NORMAL BUBBLES FOUND IN OLD GLASS"
The vase shown below on the right has the "normal bubbles
found in old glass" and this
describes it best. With bubbles and a fake signature, it is not
genuine.
CDKAUFMANN00 |
CDKAUFMANN00
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MOUNTAINOIL |
FEATHERNFAN9728 |
AT_THE_PIG_POKE
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WHAT DO YOU LEARN FROM FEEDBACK?
Quite a lot it seems. For example take the feedback for seller CDKAUFMANN00
who has two items
shown directly above. By clicking on that feedback we learn that this
seller has never sold anything on
Ebay and has only purchased a few items on Ebay with the last purchase
being over 5 years ago. All of a sudden the seller now has 5 lamps
listed as Tiffany but there is no provenance shown and after looking
several times, we were unable to find any mention of any kind of guarantee.
Enough to make you pause.
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ITEMS WITH CRACKS, LARGE CHIPS,
BREAKS OR REPAIRS WILL NOT BE EVALUATED.
A DAMAGED AND REPAIRED PIECE OF TIFFANY HAS LITTLE VALUE.
A KIND
WORD
"We are auctioneers and I recently took a large
consignment which included several
Tiffany pieces. My gut feeling told me to doublecheck all of them
- one of the pieces is
identical to one shown on your site from the same ebay seller my consignor
purchased it
from. I now have the unhappy task of informing him most of his pieces
are probably fake.
You are providing a valuable service and I thank you for it."
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ROBERTCOVIELLO |
ARTSOULANTIQUES |
BUNANDDOGMOM
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BARLEYNECKUSA |
BUGSFERRY |
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VINTAGEANANTIQUES |
NEWMANTIQUES10 |
DANIEL1XH |
DANIEL1XH |
DANIEL1XH |
ACIDSTAMP |
RAREANDFAIR |
DANIAGLASS |
UP-YOUR-ATTIC |
BARLEYNECKUSA
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MAMASUSY |
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CONDITION REPORT - SEE ABOVE LEFT
Offered by seller TALLTREES158 (named just changed to VUKSGLASS)
who informs us that
she is a dealer. Her description direct from the listing: "Condition
- Mint - as if it just came from the
factory. Bubble on baluster body
and any factory flaws included."
Now we just need to
know whose factory this piece came from and who signed it.
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JAZZYJOSH808 |
GEEZBERT |
LUCKYBRIXTON |
PENNYANDMILO |
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FROM EAST COAST TO
WEST COAST
The vase shown on the
left is also shown above when it was offered
by ROBERTCOVEILLO. He
listed it in Massachusetts for a few
hundred dollars and now it is listed in Oregon for almost
$2000.
The current seller is also using the very same photos as when
it
was first listed. What's going on here?
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MEDIA1ANTIQUES
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KINGOFDIAMONDS503 |
MEDIA1ANTIQUES |
BOLLEGS |
SEIZAN21 |
BAREN-GRAY |
LKJE |
ANTQTRADE |
SIMVLN00 |
XAENEAS |
ANTIQUEREVIVALONE
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DRAKINGTON |
FINDINGTHEFINERTHINGS |
HTANTIQUES
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WHAT IS THIS? IS
IT GENUINE?
We have received lots of correspondence regarding the piece
on
the left offered by seller HTANTIQUES.
A copy of the signature
has been added to the listing and all it does is add more
confusion.
Click on the signature photo and you can see that it is signed
as
RCT instead of LC T.
Signatures are just a guide but they are
important. We believe the top is a heat cap off of an Adam
desk set
lamp and it appears to fit on the glass, as best we can tell.
Seller is
listed on our SELLERS TO WATCH page when he was known as DAVID-555
but has now changed his Ebay name and also has
just decided to use the PRIVATE feature to hide the identity
of the buyers. Lots of questions here.
(Reference: http://www.hollandarts.com/tiffany-adam.htm)
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WHAT ARE THE ODDS?
What are the odds or chances that three Tiffany Studios (?)
lamps are offered for sale within
24 hours of each other by three different sellers and all three
sellers have a 0.0% feedback rating?
The lamps are a Tyler hanging lamp from a seller whose last Ebay
transaction was in 2007, a Turtleback desk lamp from a seller whose
last Ebay transaction was in 2006 and finally, a
Daffodil lamp from a seller whose last transaction was in 2010.
The Daffodil sold and
then was relsited again within hours of the first sale and it then
sold again within hours for
the second time. Is any of this possible and what is going on with
these lamps? Inquiring
minds want to know and we suggest you tread very carefully.
A WORD OF ADVISE REVISITED
We have warned many times about completing a sale "off"
Ebay. While we do agree that their
fees are high and mostly unreasonable, they do offer some small
measure of protection. A
recent sale of a fake and fraudulently signed Tiffany lamp was brought
to our attention and it is
timely as it concerns one of the lamps mentioned immediately above.
The buyer was offered
additional discounts, reduced payment and free shipment and all
he had to do was wire the funds
to the sellers designated location. The seller agreed and did as
instructed but began to have
doubts and was able to stop his bank before it was too late. There
is some question whether he
would have been offered protection if he had used PayPal but according
to the buyer, he would not have been protected since it was a fraudulent
transaction and there was no real product. Think
long and hard about what you are doing and the best advise is to
use common sense. Everything
about that listing smelled as we indicated above. Believe it or
not, the seller relisted the lamp
and immediately someone else bought it. Since we are not a member
of Ebay we have no way
to inform them of what is happening right in front of their eyes.
Immediately below are photos
of the lamp in question. The photo on the right is from our site
which we estimate to be about
2 - 3 years old, the photo on the right is from
our site and this is estimated to be about two
years old. The photo in the center is current. All three photos
are the same photo but there is
a totally different seller for each photo. How could that be?
Does the table look familiar?
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UNBELIEVABLE
The fake and fraudulently signed vase
on the left is believed to be from the
studios of Vandermark in New Jersey. However, Marshall says
it is Tiffany
and for $2000 you will get a Certificate of Authenticity.
He goes on to say
"that it was purchased years ago from a REAL collector
(of what?) who really
knows her stuff, was bought in 1985, off the market for 26
years, the very finest,
one of a kind, incredible, signed, rare, the real thing, not
a copy and best of all,
it is from a smoke free, pet free home. Someone inquired
about the fake and
was rewarded with more information as follows: "I
had the piece looked at by
an art historian at our Milwaukee Art Museum, and they said
it was in no
doubt, a Tiffany. They even asked for it to be a donation
to them; truly,
they LOVED the piece. Please remember, LC Tiffany did not
sign this
himself ." Finally some truth.
"One of his artisan workers signed this,
but the signature is classic and all Tiffany Studios. I hate
to part with it,
but, my pet dog is ill and I need some funds."
What happened to the pet free
home? "But, it's the MOST incredible
piece you will EVER see of Tiffany.
They can have the lamps for $10,000, this really glows in
any home or office. It's truly one of a kind. Marshall."
What is it about Tiffany
that make people do this?
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LITTLEMARZ |
CUVETTE99
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IRVINTAGE |
GLASSDEALERS |
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DO YOUR OWN DUE
DILIGENCE
The seller of the shade on the left revised the listing to
say that any bidder should do due diligence before bidding.
One look at this sellers feedback should answer a lot of questions.
Of the last 25 sales for which positive feedback has been
received, 12 of them have Tiffany in the title. The sold prices
for these Tiffany items range from $55 to $1691 with an average
of $400 and not a single one of them is a Tiffany piece. Most
of the listings also have Handel, Miller and Stickley in the
title also. A look at the bids show that there were 7 bidders
who bid 21 times with one bidder bidding 8 times. We like
our Tiffany genuine, we like it signed and we like the sale
to be guaranteed. In this case, we got none of those very
important factors.
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INDIANS
We feel like Custer who said "Where are all of these
Indians coming from?" This one is from Taiwan and the
seller shown on the left is offering it for $300
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DOUBLE
STRUCK
The pair of candlestick shown left and right are offered by
EUROCLASSICSANTIQUES and the phots show the bases of both.
Look carefully at the signature which is double struck. This
is usually caused when the maker is not comfortable with signing
and shows a lack of experience. Candlesticks are copied a
lot so be very careful. This pair might not be fakes
but they are very suspicious.
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