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Page 12

  OCTOBER 8, 2007

 

YOU ARE WARNED

The above pictures which are listed on Ebay by seller TRAPPENSEE have been forwarded to TiffanyFakes.Com by a frequent contributor. This is 3 of a total of 7 listed by this seller and the common thread is that the seller calls them all Tiffany. The auction is in Germany, the listings are mostly in German and the seller tells you to ask for additional pictures and a condition report. Our contributor did exactly that and shame on you if you do not do that before you bid. This is what we have learned from the seller: Picture 1 (534) is a pair of shades that are not Tiffany, picture 2 (529) has a Loetz signature on the base, picture 3 (530) has an crack running through the entire piece. The photos sent were too complicated to copy so it is left to you to decide if you want to bid on these and the other "Tiffany" listings. Why all of these facts were not disclosed in the listings is a big question but you are advised to be very careful. The seller is going to charge you 24.5 percent in addition to the bid price and then shipping is extra. We have been successful in getting every single listing revised to show the facts stated above but there is still the problem of the fake Tiffany that has not been adressed. and caution is still advised.

ALOUISE383

GLASGEK

FINEFINDS17

AUSTINSBIGWATER

 

BEAR_CLAN_BUYS

The piece on the left, according to the seller who is an antique dealer says this piece is one of his prized possessions from his personal collection. Sure would like to see the rest of his collection

THEGLASSATTIC396

NORTHWESTPOTTERY

ANOTHER BITES THE DUST

SILENCEJUNGLE who was offering fake and fraudulent signed Tiffany lamps as part of a group has now been made NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER by Ebay after less than a month selling. You can read about this seller on Page 11 and we are reminded of the warning from RayRob who sent an e mail saying that they have more names and more fakes and we will be watching for the newest name to show up.

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NEW FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

From a recent article in the WSJ, Ebay has embarked on a new plan to try and get the buyers back. One of their former buyers says she quit buying as she was afraid to end up with a counterfeit item and she describes Ebay as "not a trusted retailer". The article states that Ebay has restricted the selling privileges of low rated sellers or cuts them off entirely. This view is not shared by TiffanyFakes.Com who constantly see the same group offering fake and fraudulently signed Tiffany Studios items, usually lamps. There are numerous articles on this site written about this single seller who has all of these different names, 0 ratings, from different cities, offering the very same lamps, using the very same photos time after time and yes, within a month Ebay has caught them and then they become NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER only to reappear within a week with another new name. SILENCEJUNGLE was just kicked off (see above) and already has reappeared as VANSANOL (watch for story below). The damage caused while Ebay fiddles is unbelievable. One of the shills used by them e mailed to say that we were wasting our time trying to stop them as they have more names and more lamps than we can even imagine, that they only use Ebay to get the names and that the seller of these items was a trusted auctioneer in Atlanta. A brand new 0 rated seller on Ebay is allowed to hide the identity of the bidders and if the shills get caught with the high bid, they only need to go down the list of bidders with their offer of a special deal and another fake lamp has been sold to an unsuspected buyer. All of this laxity with the buyer's security makes one think and know that they are "not a trusted retailer". "Give me the listing fees" and "we are just a venue" are not acceptable answers any more. We have contacted Ebay many times to warn them and nothing happens and nobody even or ever replies. We only watch the Tiffany Studio pieces and we wonder who watches the McCoy, Roseville, Loetz, Coach, D & B, Galle, Loetz and all of the other name brands that are fakes but offered on Ebay.

 

 

The photos above were taken from a Sotheby's auction catalog which is used by Ebay seller VANASOL as the provenance for a lamp they have listed. Ebay 190162438032. The problem is that the lamp shown in the Sotheby's catalog is not the same as the lamp VANASOL is selling. This is not news as we have been telling you about this group since Page 4. They have used as many as 25 different names, many different locations, offer the same lamps over and over again and they share two things in common: they are all the same people and within 30 days, all have become NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER by Ebay. Look at the photos above and then compare them to their listing and you will see from the left photo that the heat cap is a totally different profile from the one they are showing. Notice that their fake patina has fallen off of their heat cap. The picture in the center only shows that the colors in the Sotherby's catalog does not match their lamp shade which is just a small detail. The picture on the right shows a genuine Tiffany base with a base height half the thickness of the one they are offering. Speaking of offerings, they are not offering you any protection like PayPal, they are offering no guarantee that their lamp is authentic or even guaranteed to be genuine, they are not offering an escrow service, they are offering no photos of the signature on either the base or the shade and finally there are no photos of the inside of the shade which are so critical to determine the Tiffany style of soldering. In 1992 the real lamp was listed at $50,000 to $80,000 and failed to sell. In today's market. it should sell for $150,000. Watch what happens to their lamp because when you get into that price range, there are no fools and if you think it is real and you pay less for it than what it is worth, you are the sucker they look for. There are no great buys or bargains on fake Tiffany.

ANTIQUE-FREE-FOR-ALL

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On the left, a frequest contributor. If this seller had a bottle of ketchup for sale, he would call it Tiffany.

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MIDDLEMANBROKERS

SDESTATES

BURCHARDGALLERIES

BURCHARDGALLERIES

BURCHARDGALLERIES

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They are back with more listings and this time they have brought one of their friends from New Hampshire - GLAPLAY - and another friend from California - MONSTERBENTO. Just like the rest of them, 0 rated seller, no escrow and no PayPal. The listing for the fake from the seller in New Hampshire has a new twist. It cannot be viewed or picked up in New Hampshire as they are in Florida redecorating their beach home. Their other friend - VANASOL - has listed 2 new lamps and again the same payment requirements and the same lack of pictures of the signature on either the base or the shade. the lack of a guarantee, no PayPal and no escrow. Can you believe someone would send a 0 rated seller anything more than a five dollar bill?

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EASY COME EASY GO

Yesterday 4 new Tiffany lamps were offered for sale on Ebay. The first, a "Wild Rose" listed by MONSTERBENTO from California is the only one still active.The second, a "Tulip", was listed by GLAPLAY and it has been removed and that listing can no longer be found which is the mark of Ebay. The last 2, a "Period Leaded Lamp" that was guaranteed to be by Tiffany and a "Tiffany Studios Lamp", were listed by VANSANOL and they are both gone and the seller is now known as NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER. You might remember VANSANOL as the seller who offered the Laburnum with the fake provenance from Sotheby's (see article above) a few days before and when it closed, all of the bids disappeared. Ebay is the only one who could have done this and it is final. That makes a total of 28 different names these people have used within a 12 month period but the end of the road looks closer now.

GOANTIQUESLIVE

 

CHELSEA-MARKETEERS

 

DUANESANTIQUES

SHELBYSBASKET

 

The glass on the left (front view) and on the right (rear view) is selling on Ebay as 300162479208. It is listed by MIDDLEMANBROKERS and was posted above when it first came on Ebay. There are now 30 bids and 3 people are responsible for 23 of the bids. This is not even close to being Tiffany and it has a fake and fraudulent signature and a broken pontil. What is going on here? It closed at $1875 with 33 bids. Ouch to somebody

 

PJANDB

LIVINGSTONSAUCTION

LIVINGSTONSAUCTION

WHOROUX

FLOWERHAPPY3

BACK AGAIN

The fakes on the left and right were listed 30 days ago (Page 11) for $150 each and now relisted for $300 each. Seller alludes to an appraisal so be sure and ask for a copy. We asked but did not get a copy and we would love to see it.

FLOWERHAPPY3

MIKEYMUR

FROGPRINCEAUCTIONS

On the left is another of those fake and fraudulently signed Indians (series of 5) that sell for less than $10 each from the wholesalers and this one was bid to $190. Best yet. it did not meet reserve. Wow

DUMOART

KIMSWITT

MISSEESTREASURES

SELL4PLAY

ALAWR

NAMES IN ITALICS ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS

PDQINTERNETMARKETPLACE

BROOKE423

ADAH222

MIKE17254250

BENIMHOFF

Just when you think you have seen it all, up pops 2 very special fakes. The creation on the left offers a 2 day inspection but a 2 second look is all that is needed.

This piece has it all. Besides being ugly, it has fake signatures, numbers that match and then to top it all off, some of the most outlandish lies in the description

TALIPES

BLEEDING_GUMS

FINEMIXEDANTIQUES

ADAH222

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