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Page 11

AUGUST 22, 2007

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MORE OF THE SAME FROM THE SAME

They are back again with the same old tired fake and fraudulently signed lamps. The Acorn shade currently offered by WORLDTREASURESEXPERT27 who just changed their Ebay name from JORUSSY56. and who in the past 30 days has used an address in Texas, then Southeast US and now is using United States, USA. One of their newest listings is an Acorn shade, fake of course, that has been offered by ROBMAZ56, Southeastern, United States, JAMIECOHEN961, Southeastern Coast, United States, LENNRICK893, Merrillville, In, ANTIQUEHUNTER0, Miami, Florida. It is again listed as a PRIVATE sale, no PayPal and no Escrow. Wonder why? This seller has another lamp listed which is on a Grueby base and if you read the listing, it clearly states that PayPal will not be accepted "for items over $15,000". This means you can use PayPal for under $15,000 on this Grueby lamp but cannot use PayPal on the Acorn for any amount. What it really means is that the Grueby most likely has a reserve of over $15,000. We have written about this group of sellers who we believe operate out of the Atlanta area and their fakes has been on this site since page 2, along with articles on them on pages 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and page 10 and have used as many as 14 different names most of which have been shut down by Ebay. Do not bid without an agreement in place to use an escrow account or pay with Paypal. Always secure the opinion of an outside expert and do not let the seller make a recommendation to their expert or you will be pushed into the arms of a partner, a parking lot attendant or maybe an auctioneer in Atlanta. The internet is full of dealers with reputations above reproach and many have been in business for many years with their main interest being all things Tiffany. When you see a listing for a Tiffany lamp or shade and you see doublespeak in the listing, you are heading into troubled waters.

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Here's more. The first lamp offered sold for $25.000 but there is no feedback which could mean that it was bid up by a shill or that the sale was not completed for some reason. Two other fakes which have been seen before when offered by other members of this ring were listed. One did not reach reserve and the other did not even get one bid. Maybe the shills are on vacation. Just when you have all of this figured out, up pops another new member - AL_4_SALE3 - from Cincinnati with a fake Hydrangea but just as quickly as it came up, it disappears with no trace and when there is no trace, that is the work of Ebay. The Ebay number was 280147257695. What's with these name all ending with numbers?

THESTAINEDGLASSSTORE

ENTOURAGE1

SASSYCAT52

WIDOL

NAMES IN ITALICS ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS

Can you believe this? WORLDTREASURESEXPERT27 has been removed by Ebay and another of their names has joined the growing list of NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER. You would think these idiots with their fake shades and fake bases would learn. Maybe they will now just confine their sales of this fake Tiffany to their Atlanta auction house and leave the fakes off of Ebay. We received an angry e mail from one of their members who says "Ebay is just to get contacts and it works". If you would like a copy of RayRob's e mail just let us know and it will be forwarded to you.

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Since the newest named seller is now NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER, they have replaced that name with a new name - MASTER-SELLER45. This seller is using Key West as the new address and has listed 2 lamps but does not call them Tiffany in the title but refers to them as "old tiffany signed" or "old studios signed" in the listing. Check out the new payment plan which is that "all methods of permissible U.S. Currency transactions". What does that garbage mean? Do they take PayPal? Almost forgot. You have seen both lamps before at least 4 times offered by different sellers from different cities and all of that traveling has not caused these 2 lamps to become genuine and of course, this new seller does not guarantee them to be genuine Tiffany Studios either. Of course it is a new seller with 0 feedback. They do keep trying.

Another member of this dysfunctional family of fake Tiffany sellers has relisted a lamp again - a week ago it was listed as a "Miniature Hydrangea Lamp" and now the very same lamp is listed as "Old Studios Floral". It is listed as "Old Studios" in the title and in the listing it is called "original Studios piece", "made in New York" and also as "old Studios lamp". This is the same seller discussed above - AL_4_sale3 - and the listing says the seller is from Cincinnati, Ohio. Compare the listing from Cincinnati to the listing from Key West and you will be amazed at all of the similarities Also this is a new seller with a 0 feedback rating and of course, the bidders are PRIVATE so as to protect the shills as they run the price up. Do not be caught when the bidding stops or you will be stuck with an overpriced fake.

What a wonderful day it is today. All of the listing mentioned above by the two sellers above have been withdrawn by Ebay. How would you know this? Any listing that is for sale or sold can, for at least a period of 30 days, be found either by listing the number of the item or the name of the seller and it will show what happened to it. When Ebay removes an item, it is gone and cannot be found - no picture, no listing, no anything. Surely they will be back.

AL_4_SALE3 already have another new fake listed and has a brand new Ebay name which is now OLDTIFFANYLAMPSELER. It is Ebay 280150351551 and is titled as ANTIQUE DRAGONFLY LEADED GLASS & BRONZE LAMP but in the listing it is called Tiffany Studios and both the "shade and base are guaranteed old". That is very comforting news. It has been listed before several times by several of their names and from several of their fake cities.

The mighty hand of Ebay has struck again and the often seen Dragonfly is gone with no record that it was ever offered by OLDTIFFANYLAMPSELER. Thanks to Ebay again.

 

JOEBRADLEYCOLLECTIBLES

SKILIDS

CELLARBUY1

SELLABAY

The student lamp on the left might be correct but the shades on the right were not made by Tiffany.

PRETTYBABYLAWYER

AUTHENTIC_TIFFANY_STUDIOS_BUYSELL$$$$$

This is a brand new (09/06/07) name of a seller that is mentioned on Page 10 of this site. You may not be able to bid on their current listings since it appears that after just 2 or 3 days, they are no longer for sale. On Page 10 they were known as CIRCA1897 and less than 2 weeks before they took that name, they were knows as ARTGAL97. RayRob, one of the hanger ons of this group sent an e mail saying that we are wasting out time as they have more names then we can even imagine. Wonder what he is up to? The interesting part of their new listing is that it is the turtleback seen many times before but this time it is (correctly) not called Tiffany in the listing. The base is signed on the bottom but a picture is not shown and the signature is not identified. What's with that? Watch out for this new name.

ROBOLOV

PEANUT0701

PEANUT0701

PEANUT0701

GIAMER

SHORTTIMER1

FLOWERHAPPY3

FLOWERHAPPY3

WHEELBOY02

SCOTT0228

 

DCRAWFORDAUCTIONS

TOPSHELFANTIQUES

LOOKOUT

New to Ebay is BREZACHER who has a 0 feedback rating and has been a member of the Ebay community since 9-17-07 (4 days) and has a listing for a Tiffany Studios Antique Leaded Glass Lamp - Ebay 110117206473. This lamp is not new to Ebay and was listed by JAMIECOHEN961 - the lamp is shown on page 3 and news about this seller starts on page 4 and there is a comment on almost every page after page 4 about this seller and the other names used - and it was Ebay 140011501562 on 7-30-06 and then again as 140021061744 on 8-27-06. JAMIECOHEN961, like the rest of the other names used, have all become NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER as Ebay closes them out. The very unusual thing about this current listing is that the photos from a year ago when it was for sale from the Southeastern Coast are exactly the very same photos from the current listing although it now is for sale from Long Grove, Illinois. The lamp is shown on the same table, in the same placement and the cord hangs exactly the same place as the older photos. There are some differences. In the new listing there are only three photos while before there were many which made it very easy to see the lack of quality, the signatures and the close up photos of the glass. The seller says they will accept PayPal so be sure and protect yourself if you buy this lamp. Rayrob promised in an earlier e mail that they have more names than we can keep up with and the listings on Ebay are just to find buyers and sell it to them off Ebay. Be very careful of this group or you will face the same financial hardships that they have placed on unsuspecting buyers both on and off Ebay who have purchased their lamps only to find that they are fakes and cannot be returned and the sellers will not honor their guarantee. Good bye money..

ARMCANDYCONSIGNMENT-COM

SKYCODY

CUBA6947

MIATACUTIE

EVERY PIECE OF FAKE TIFFANY IS NOT ON THIS SITE. ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN BUYING TIFFANY ON EBAY ARE THE PHOTOS SHOWN WITH THE LISTING. DO NOT BUY TIFFANY WHEN THERE IS ONLY ONE PICTURE TO BE SEEN OR WHEN THERE IS NO PICTURE OF THE BASE OR THE SIGNATURE. ALTHOUGH THIS ALONE IS NOT THE ONLY BASIS FOR DETERMINING THE REAL FROM THE FAKE, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

CLIFFPRINTS6NJN

SUPERNANA

GOLDEN1424

FOURSEASONSAUCTIONGALLERY

CHECK THIS OUT

Current Ebay listing150164211799 is another fake from the same people who have brought you so many other fakes.It is not that there are so many, it is just that they keep offering the same old fakes. This current fake is listed by SILENCEJUNGLE from Riverside, California. This very same lamp was offered as 220105105147 on April 26, 2007 by SALLOUSHA1 from Herndon, Virginia, 110128149469 on May 21, 2007 by CAPTNJACK210 from Greer, South Carolina, 110131800767 on May 31, 2007 again by CAPTNJACK210, 290156959008 on September 7, 2007 by MASTER-SELLER45 from Miami, Florida. In a 6 month period, it has been listed 5 different times by 4 different sellers from 4 different states. Amazing. But there is more. All of the sellers listed this lamp with a 0 rating, all of the pictures are the same, and all of the sellers with the exception of the current seller show that they are NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER and that their account has been suspended by Ebay. How can all of this be possible? It is already bid up to $5000 and Ebay is offering this seller an opportunity to sell it with the bidders identity hidden so you cannot tell if the bidders have history with Ebay or are just new Ebayers acting as shills. You have read about these sellers on previous pages but they just keep coming back. Absolutely amazing. If you place a bid, it is never enough to meet reserve but them you will receive an e mail from the seller offering it to you for your bid and then it is all downhill from there.

MIATACUTIE

R1CK1E

READ MORE ABOUT THIS SELLER ON PAGE 8

HENSELSE

KING99ZEUS4CSI

THIS EXPLAINS IT ALL

"One last thing for me to point out to you is that if you run a search on ebay for Tiffany-Favrile vases, my listing doesn't even appear. I did this intentionally. I was careful to have it not appear when anyone is looking for Tiffany-Favrile pieces. I did this by leaving no spaces between LC and Tiffany. Clearly I am not trying to market this to people looking for LC Tiffany-Favrile pieces. It is just being marketed for people looking for pretty vases." This is from ARMCANDYCONSIGNMENT-COM who listed a fake piece of Tiffany (shown on this page) with an opening bid of $6000.00. Clearly this must be the new normal opening price for a "pretty vase". Sure it is. You can believe the seller or you can read the listing: " L C Tiffany Favrile Glass Vase, Height 11 inches" and you can see the listing as Ebay 290163277488

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MORE JUNK - A LESSON IN QUALITY

Ebay150167104509  has been relisted again for the 4th time, this time by SILENCEJUNGLE. Others who have offered this fake have been ROBMAZ56 - twice - and JAMIECOHEN961 both of whom share the distinction of having been assigned as NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER by Ebay. There is a lesson here and if you would look at the very bottom picture on the right side, you will see the fake and fraudulently signed tags that have been attached to this shade. Immediately above the tags you can see a solder job not worthy of a high school shop class. The base signature must be something special as it is not even shown. Provenance is a joke and remember to pay with PayPal so you will have some protection

This 0 rated seller mentioned directly above (SILENCEJUNGLE) has a new listing and it is for an ANTIQUE LEADED GLASS AND BRONZE LAMP with no mention of Tiffany in the title. When you get to the listing, it is all about Tiffany but this seller of fakes offers nothing but his word that the base and the shade are signed. Wonder why there are no pictures of the signatures?

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