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AUGUST 22, 2007
MORE OF THE
SAME FROM THE SAME
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They are back again with
the same old tired fake and fraudulently signed lamps. The
Acorn shade currently offered by WORLDTREASURESEXPERT27 who
just changed their Ebay name from JORUSSY56. and who in the
past 30 days has used an address in Texas, then Southeast
US and now is using United States, USA. One of their newest
listings is an Acorn shade, fake of course, that has been
offered by ROBMAZ56, Southeastern, United States, JAMIECOHEN961,
Southeastern Coast, United States, LENNRICK893, Merrillville,
In, ANTIQUEHUNTER0, Miami, Florida. It is again listed as
a PRIVATE sale, no PayPal and no Escrow. Wonder why? This
seller has another lamp listed which is on a Grueby base and
if you read the listing, it clearly states that PayPal will
not be accepted "for items over $15,000". This means
you can use PayPal for under $15,000 on this Grueby lamp but
cannot use PayPal on the Acorn for any amount. What it really
means is that the Grueby most likely has a reserve of over
$15,000. We have written about this group of sellers who we
believe operate out of the Atlanta area and their fakes has
been on this site since page 2, along with articles on them
on pages 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and page 10 and have used as many
as 14 different names most of which have been shut down by
Ebay. Do not bid without an agreement in place to use an escrow
account or pay with Paypal. Always secure the opinion of an
outside expert and do not let the seller make a recommendation
to their expert or you will be pushed into the arms of a partner,
a parking lot attendant or maybe an auctioneer in Atlanta.
The internet is full of dealers with reputations above reproach
and many have been in business for many years with their main
interest being all things Tiffany. When you see a listing
for a Tiffany lamp or shade and you see doublespeak in the
listing, you are heading into troubled waters.
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Here's more. The first lamp
offered sold for $25.000 but there is no feedback which could
mean that it was bid up by a shill or that the sale was not
completed for some reason. Two other fakes which have been
seen before when offered by other members of this ring were
listed. One did not reach reserve and the other did not even
get one bid. Maybe the shills are on vacation. Just when you
have all of this figured out, up pops another new member -
AL_4_SALE3 - from Cincinnati with a fake Hydrangea but just
as quickly as it came up, it disappears with no trace and
when there is no trace, that is the work of Ebay. The Ebay
number was 280147257695. What's with these name all ending
with numbers?
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THESTAINEDGLASSSTORE
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ENTOURAGE1
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SASSYCAT52
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WIDOL
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NAMES IN ITALICS
ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS
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Can you believe this? WORLDTREASURESEXPERT27
has been removed by Ebay and another of their names has joined
the growing list of NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER. You would
think these idiots with their fake shades and fake bases would
learn. Maybe they will now just confine their sales of this
fake Tiffany to their Atlanta auction house and leave the
fakes off of Ebay. We received an angry e mail from one of
their members who says "Ebay is just to get contacts
and it works". If you would like a copy of RayRob's e
mail just let us know and it will be forwarded to you.
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Since the newest named seller
is now NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER, they have replaced that name
with a new name - MASTER-SELLER45. This seller is using Key West
as the new address and has listed 2 lamps but does not call them
Tiffany in the title but refers to them as "old tiffany signed"
or "old studios signed" in the listing. Check out the
new payment plan which is that "all methods of permissible
U.S. Currency transactions". What does that garbage mean? Do
they take PayPal? Almost forgot. You have seen both lamps before
at least 4 times offered by different sellers from different cities
and all of that traveling has not caused these 2 lamps to become
genuine and of course, this new seller does not guarantee them to
be genuine Tiffany Studios either. Of course it is a new seller
with 0 feedback. They do keep trying.
Another member of this dysfunctional
family of fake Tiffany sellers has relisted a lamp again - a week
ago it was listed as a "Miniature Hydrangea Lamp" and
now the very same lamp is listed as "Old Studios Floral".
It is listed as "Old Studios" in the title and in the
listing it is called "original Studios piece", "made
in New York" and also as "old Studios lamp". This
is the same seller discussed above - AL_4_sale3 - and the listing
says the seller is from Cincinnati, Ohio. Compare the listing from
Cincinnati to the listing from Key West and you will be amazed at
all of the similarities Also this is a new seller with a 0 feedback
rating and of course, the bidders are PRIVATE so as to protect the
shills as they run the price up. Do not be caught when the bidding
stops or you will be stuck with an overpriced fake.
What a wonderful day it is today.
All of the listing mentioned above by the two sellers above have
been withdrawn by Ebay. How would you know this? Any listing that
is for sale or sold can, for at least a period of 30 days, be found
either by listing the number of the item or the name of the seller
and it will show what happened to it. When Ebay removes an item,
it is gone and cannot be found - no picture, no listing, no anything.
Surely they will be back.
AL_4_SALE3 already have another
new fake listed and has a brand new Ebay name which is now OLDTIFFANYLAMPSELER.
It is Ebay 280150351551 and is titled as ANTIQUE DRAGONFLY LEADED
GLASS & BRONZE LAMP but in the listing it is called Tiffany
Studios and both the "shade and base are guaranteed old".
That is very comforting news. It has been listed before several
times by several of their names and from several of their fake cities.
The mighty hand of Ebay has struck
again and the often seen Dragonfly is gone with no record that it
was ever offered by OLDTIFFANYLAMPSELER. Thanks to Ebay again.
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JOEBRADLEYCOLLECTIBLES
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SKILIDS
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CELLARBUY1
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SELLABAY
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The student lamp on the
left might be correct but the shades on the right were not
made by Tiffany.
PRETTYBABYLAWYER
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AUTHENTIC_TIFFANY_STUDIOS_BUYSELL$$$$$
This is a brand new (09/06/07)
name of a seller that is mentioned on Page 10 of this site. You
may not be able to bid on their current listings since it appears
that after just 2 or 3 days, they are no longer for sale. On Page
10 they were known as CIRCA1897 and less than 2 weeks before they
took that name, they were knows as ARTGAL97. RayRob, one of the
hanger ons of this group sent an e mail saying that we are wasting
out time as they have more names then we can even imagine. Wonder
what he is up to? The interesting part of their new listing is that
it is the turtleback seen many times before but this time it is
(correctly) not called Tiffany in the listing. The base is signed
on the bottom but a picture is not shown and the signature is not
identified. What's with that? Watch out for this new name.
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ROBOLOV
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PEANUT0701
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PEANUT0701
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GIAMER
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SHORTTIMER1
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FLOWERHAPPY3
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SCOTT0228
MADE IN TAIWAN
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LOOKOUT
New to Ebay is BREZACHER
who has a 0 feedback rating and has been a member of the Ebay community
since 9-17-07 (4 days) and has a listing for a Tiffany Studios Antique
Leaded Glass Lamp - Ebay 110117206473. This lamp is not new to Ebay
and was listed by JAMIECOHEN961 - the lamp is shown on page 3 and
news about this seller starts on page 4 and there is a comment on
almost every page after page 4 about this seller and the other names
used - and it was Ebay 140011501562 on 7-30-06 and then again as 140021061744
on 8-27-06. JAMIECOHEN961, like the rest of the other names used,
have all become NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER as Ebay closes them out.
The very unusual thing about this current listing is that the photos
from a year ago when it was for sale from the Southeastern Coast are
exactly the very same photos from the current listing although it
now is for sale from Long Grove, Illinois. The lamp is shown on the
same table, in the same placement and the cord hangs exactly the same
place as the older photos. There are some differences. In the new
listing there are only three photos while before there were many which
made it very easy to see the lack of quality, the signatures and the
close up photos of the glass. The seller says they will accept PayPal
so be sure and protect yourself if you buy this lamp. Rayrob promised
in an earlier e mail that they have more names than we can keep up
with and the listings on Ebay are just to find buyers and sell it
to them off Ebay. Be very careful of this group or you will face the
same financial hardships that they have placed on unsuspecting buyers
both on and off Ebay who have purchased their lamps only to find that
they are fakes and cannot be returned and the sellers will not honor
their guarantee. Good bye money..
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ARMCANDYCONSIGNMENT-COM
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SKYCODY
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CUBA6947
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MIATACUTIE
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EVERY
PIECE OF FAKE TIFFANY IS NOT ON THIS SITE
ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT
THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN BUYING TIFFANY ON EBAY ARE THE PHOTOS SHOWN
WITH THE LISTING. DO NOT BUY TIFFANY WHEN THERE IS ONLY ONE PICTURE
TO BE SEEN OR WHEN THERE IS NO PICTURE OF THE BASE OR THE SIGNATURE.
ALTHOUGH THIS ALONE IS NOT THE ONLY BASIS FOR DETERMINING THE REAL
FROM THE FAKE, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
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SUPERNANA
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GOLDEN1424
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FOURSEASONSAUCTIONGALLERY
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CHECK THIS OUT
Current Ebay listing150164211799
is another fake from the same people who have brought you so many
other fakes.It is not that there are so many, it is just that they
keep offering the same old fakes. This current fake is listed by SILENCEJUNGLE
from Riverside, California. This very same lamp was offered as 220105105147
on April 26, 2007 by SALLOUSHA1 from Herndon, Virginia, 110128149469
on May 21, 2007 by CAPTNJACK210 from Greer, South Carolina, 110131800767
on May 31, 2007 again by CAPTNJACK210, 290156959008 on September 7,
2007 by MASTER-SELLER45 from Miami, Florida. In a 6 month period,
it has been listed 5 different times by 4 different sellers from 4
different states. Amazing. But there is more. All of the sellers listed
this lamp with a 0 rating, all of the pictures are the same, and all
of the sellers with the exception of the current seller show that
they are NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER and that their account has been
suspended by Ebay. How can all of this be possible? It is already
bid up to $5000 and Ebay is offering this seller an opportunity to
sell it with the bidders identity hidden so you cannot tell if the
bidders have history with Ebay or are just new Ebayers acting as shills.
You have read about these sellers on previous pages but they just
keep coming back. Absolutely amazing. If you place a bid, it is never
enough to meet reserve but them you will receive an e mail from the
seller offering it to you for your bid and then it is all downhill
from there.
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MIATACUTIE
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R1CK1E
READ MORE
ABOUT THIS SELLER ON PAGE 4, 8
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THIS EXPLAINS IT
ALL
"One last thing
for me to point out to you is that if you run a search on ebay for
Tiffany-Favrile vases, my listing doesn't even appear. I did this
intentionally. I was careful to have it not appear when anyone is
looking for Tiffany-Favrile pieces. I did this by leaving no spaces
between LC and Tiffany. Clearly I am not trying to market this to
people looking for LC Tiffany-Favrile pieces. It is just being marketed
for people looking for pretty vases." This is from ARMCANDYCONSIGNMENT-COM
who listed a fake piece of Tiffany (shown on this page) with an opening
bid of $6000.00. Clearly this must be the new normal opening price
for a "pretty vase". Sure it is. You can believe the seller
or you can read the listing: " L C Tiffany Favrile Glass Vase,
Height 11 inches" and you can see the listing as Ebay 290163277488
MORE JUNK - A
LESSON IN QUALITY
Ebay150167104509
has been relisted again for the 4th time, this time by SILENCEJUNGLE.
Others who have offered this fake have been ROBMAZ56 - twice - and
JAMIECOHEN961 both of whom share the distinction of having been assigned
as NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER by Ebay. There is a lesson here and
if you would look at the very bottom picture on the right side, you
will see the fake and fraudulently signed tags that have been attached
to this shade. Immediately above the tags you can see a solder job
not worthy of a high school shop class. The base signature must be
something special as it is not even shown. Provenance is a joke and
remember to pay with PayPal so you will have some protection
This 0 rated seller
mentioned directly above (SILENCEJUNGLE) has a new listing and it
is for an ANTIQUE LEADED GLASS AND BRONZE LAMP with no mention of
Tiffany in the title. When you get to the listing, it is all about
Tiffany but this seller of fakes offers nothing but his word that
the base and the shade are signed. Wonder why there are no pictures
of the signatures?
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