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Page 10

JUNE 10, 2007

AUCTION NEWS

More and more live auctions are showing up on Ebay now and it just might be the season or they might have figured out something. Remember you are going to be paying 20 to 25 percent buyers fee on top of the selling price and this is a lot of money. We are seeing Tiffany all over the place in these auctions and most of these auction houses fail to offer any guarantee of authenticity and they show only one picture. For a fee in excess of 20 percent, you should get several pictures including very clear and detailed pictures of the signature and close ups of the finish. Read the conditions of sale which will wake you up. Most say they offer no warranty and most do not allow any returns. All this and a 20 to 25 percent add on commission plus some of the most outlandish shipping charges ever imagined.

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NEW YORK STATE - JUNE 10, 2007

The state attorney general's office is warning consumers to be cautious when bidding on items offered by online auction houses after a recently uncovered nationwide scheme on Ebay. EMH Group of New York City placed more than 232,000 bids, worth more than $5 million, that inflated the prices of their online auctions. Ebay brought the scheme to the attention of authorities and assisted in the investigation. EMH will pay more than $400,000 in restiution and penalities. Is that all they get for 232,000 bids and $5 million in fraudulent bids?

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PRINCESSS35 (BASE GENUINE)

The lamp on the left is listed on Ebay as "Antique Bronze Tiffany "Lily" lamp and is referenced to an appraisal which says Antique Tiffany-Style "Lily" lamp. Must not have been enough room for the word Style on the listing. Ebay 260128432613.

CARLKCHAN

BURCHARDGALLERIES

GREATEXPRESSIONS

The fake vase on the left is listed by GREATEXPRESSIONS who has never used the PRIVATE bidder function in 7 years on Ebay. Now, with a fake piece of Tiffany, it is being used. Interesting.

EVERYDAYSAGIFT

GEOFFGATOR_CLEARANCE

ANTEEKVIE

SYBYARD

KOOLCATZ007

DESERTKOOL

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THEY ARE BACK

Just when you thought it might be over, they show up again with 4 new offerings. First is a glass bowl (320128124966) signed clockwise on what appears to be the side of the bowl instead of counter clockwise and on the bottom like most Tiffany. It is guaranteed to be 100% old and original but it is not guaranteed to be Tiffany although it is listed as Tiffany. The next piece of interest is a peony border shade (320127003894) that if real would be worth approximately $200,000 so all of you bargain seekers look out. Surprise of sunrises is that the seller saw that the shade is numbered but failed to notice the Tiffany signature tag next to the number until some Ebayer notified them of it. Sure, we all miss these little things. The seller says he will leave it up to the experts to determine if it is real. No Papal accepted for over $2500 and the starting bid is $3000 so for those who are confused, it means there will be no Papal which means no protection. The remaining two items are not of concern as they are not being offered as Tiffany although Ebay 320126994836 shows a photo of a Tiffany signature but there is no mention in the listing that it is signed Tiffany. The sellers name is CIRCA1897 which changed from ARTGAL97 on June 13, 2007. Otherwise, the rest is typical - vague address of Southeast which is the same location JAMIECOHEN961 and the others detailed most recently on page 9 used but the money was sent to an address in Atlanta. Of course the bidders names are hidden so you have no ideal if they are real bidders or real shills.

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DOUNIAL

The seller on the left has a hard time listing his items correctly. Read the listings very carefully as the title is not always what the listing says. Deceptive seller.

IRISMOONBEADS

HWSHOWCASE

SERENDIPITY9596

HIDDEN-HILL

The fake on the right is listed again and it is still a fake and will be a fake everytime that it is listed. The offering of this as Tiffany is an insult to the intelligence of even the least knowledgeable Tiffany collector.

DUPRIESTUFF

NAMES IN ITALICS ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS

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AND THEY ARE BACK YET AGAIN

This time they use the location of the item as Route 66 and they are a brand new seller on Ebay from June 29, 2007. Why would a seller use such a vague address as Route 66? 0 feedback. No guarantee and no Paypal so do not fall into the same trap as others who deal with sellers like this have done. The Ebay item is numbered as 110147057578 and if they do as usual, the bidders or shills names will be hidden by the PRIVATE feature.

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STUDIOGOODSTUFF

JOFU19

COWGIRL-143

FABULOUS"TREASURES

DUEGEE

HANDYANDY13

Check out the 2 fakes just offered by ANTIQUE-SELLER1 who is known to TiffanyFakes.Com from before. 320137656740 and 320137674692. A pair of bogus candlesticks which sold

for less than $500 when Tiffany candlesticks usually sell for $1200 each and then the tea screen OR picture frame OR piece of junk that did not even get a bid. It just gets more difficult to sell fakes on Ebay.

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COWGIRL-143

Page 486, photo 1905 shows 979 Ashtray and 803 Stamp Box

On the left is Ebay 260142524511 which is listed as a 979 Tiffany Studios ashtray and if you read the listing, this seller runs on about how TiffanyFakes.Com is in error and his ashtray is the real thing. The real 979 is listed below the fake in a photo from page 486 of Tiffany Lamps and Metalware (2007) by Alastair Duncan author of numerous books about Tiffany including Tiffany At Auction, Art Nouveau and Tiffany Windows. This seller has contributed to TiffanyFakes.Com before and that is why his/her Ebay name is in italics. The seller also knows where the "matching floor ashtray and matching floor lamp with tray are located in upstate New York" and even knows that these pieces were made for an "old wealthy family in the early 1900s". Cannot wait to see those beauties. If you buy this piece and return it within three (3) days with a "signed sworn affadivit with proof" - probably means affidavit - your money will be refunded. Remember three days. Great guarantee that is good for 3 days. If you cannot find the listing, e mail us and we will e mail a copy to you. We believe the seller will remove the listing very soon. NEW NEWS- Seller cancelled the listing.

 

 

The above appears to be a joke but it is a very serious attempt to sell a fake ashtray for a minimum of $400 and with a close examination of the photo, it is obvious that it is junk. Who stamped the Tiffany signature and number on it and why is there so much of this type of thievery? Where did the number come from? Someone took one of the old books that show Tiffany numbers, looked under ashtrays and found a number where there is no corresponding picture and they are in business. Who would know? The problem is that there are books now that show more numbers than the old books and then it becomes easy to see what is happening. If you just take a few minutes to look at the listing you can see the first problem where it indicates that the item location is Midwest, USA. That is clearly an attempt to hide something and it is a ploy used by the group offering most all of the fake Tiffany lamps. Read these listing carefully and it will save you the fate of the many people who have lost thousands and thousands of dollars in these types of scams. Most sellers believe if it is signed, it is real. This is not true and buyers and bidders need to be aware that there is a group of thieves out there who sole function in life is to sell these fakes to you. You can read about them on this page and the other pages on this site.

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THEY ARE BACK AGAIN - $100.00 REWARD

A brand new offering from a brand new seller, this time from Texas. The Ebay number is 280135883206 and the seller is JORUSSY56 who has been registered less than 30 days - surprise -, has a 0 rating - surprise - and is using the PRIVATE feature - surprise. TiffanyFakes.Com is offering a ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR prize to the first person who can find in this listing any of the following words that should absolutely accompany any Tiffany Studios piece offered for sale on the internet. The words to locate are GUARANTEED as in guaranteed to be genuine Tiffany Studios, ESCROW as in seller will accept escrow or PAYPAL as in seller will accept payment by Paypal. Who would possibly bid on this piece without the use of these "reward words"? Only the shills and the fools. One winner only. Void if seller revises listing. There will be more to follow regarding this lamp and this seller.

The reward goes uncollected. Just when you think you know everything there is to know about this group operating out of Atlanta, they up and surprise you. The lamp has been removed and any record of it is nowhere to be found. This usually indicates the hand of Ebay. However, there is an identical lamp now listed with the same pictures as the one above, the same seller with the same 0 rating as the one above and the same PRIVATE listing as the one mentioned above. What has changed you ask? Now, there is no mention of Tiffany and just overnight it has moved from Texas to Southeast, United States which is the location address used for most all of the other fakes listed by all of the sellers who are now NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER on Ebay. The new listing is 280136860525 and there is a very subtle reference to Dr. Egon Neustadt's book which is strange because Neustadt wrote about Tiffany. These scammers are dumber than a bag of rocks if they think this new ploy will get them any money.

MARYS-NOOK

PLAINERK

PAPERQUIL

WIDOL

 DO NOT BID If you are looking at a piece of Tiffany that is for sale and the base is not shown, you are buying in the dark. The finish of the base and the signature are very important and any seller offering a piece of Tiffany without a base picture is hiding something from you. Demand that the base be shown in the listing.

MITZIDANTI

KARABAS-BARABAS-05

KARABAS-BARABAS-05

JJIM1254

IF THE NAME BELOW THE PHOTO IS IN ITALICS, THE SELLER IS A FREQUENT CONTRIBUTOR TO TIFFANYFAKES.COM.

WETHERLEE1

GRIF4180

The box on the left is a fake but the story about coming from the "high rollers" room at Tiffany & Company is a better fake and a bigger lie. That story is not an example of provenance.

AGUI5931

The seller on the right is a frequent contributor to this site and they always call it Tiffany but in the listing it is guaranteed only to be "100% old and original". Read their feedback.

ANTIQUE-FREE-FOR-ALL

SIGHMR87

HOCKATHOME

NAGUAL48

MACINGEL

MOCHIMOMMY

MIABAYSHORE

WARNING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE For a long time we have preached about buying Tiffany from those who do not accept Paypal. Some absolutely will not accept it and then there are those who offer a Tiffany lamp which should sell in the tens of thousands of dollars but refuse to accept Paypal for any item over $1000 but the starting price is $3000. Normally they accept Paypal and you have got to wonder why they quit taking it for this item. See that scam coming? If you find an Tiffany item listed this way, run. In the latest edition (on line) of Maine Antique Digest, there is an article about a seller who offered an Indian relic which sold. The buyer paid with Paypal and then found that the item was not believed to be genuine. He contacted Paypal and the money was refunded but that is not the end of the story. The seller continues to believe that the item is genuine and he wants it back. No way says Paypal. They do not return these items. This is a wonderful way to rid the world of so many of these fake Tiffany pieces especially those same old lamps that continue to be offered for sale by the same old group with new names and low feedback and no guarantee. If the reason they do not accept Paypal is because of the fee, offer to pay the fee as it is very cheep insurance. Of course, none of this matters if the buyers do not have the piece verified by someone with Tiffany knowledge. Remember that just because it is signed, that does not make it Tiffany. Most of these fakes are guaranteed to be signed but not guaranteed as to who signed it A link to this informative article is listed below. Read it and learn. http://www.maineantiquedigest.com/stories/index.html?id=172

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